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PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

az01 posted on 11 May 2013 12:38 AM PST
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 In order to get acquainted with the PSoC 4, I decided to play with the PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1. However, my home PC is 

slightly below the minimum requirements to run this program - it was older than 5 years  or so. 

Namely, the lack of RAM and slow USB ports. And yet, in recent times due to worn-out "hardware", BSoD-s occur regularly. 

That's such an extreme installation. 

 

After several attempts, I managed to perform the installation. 

However, each program run ended with an error. According to the results of several installations, it became clear that it is one and the same error. 

 

Message (approx.) 

"Psoc_creator.exe - found an error. Needs to close. Sorry for the inconvenience" 

issued after 

"Initializing ... CyDesigner.Common.Debugger.CyPPDeviceIO.CyPPDeviceIOPlugin"

 

In addition, the installation with the same distribution file to a higher quality office computer was performed with no 

problems on the first try.

 

I assume that the error is due to lack of RAM.

 



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

Bob Marlowe posted on 11 May 2013 02:22 AM PST
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RAM seems to be the reason, have a look here http://www.cypress.com/?id=4&rID=58205 at the minimum / recommended system requirements

 

Bob



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

danaaknight posted on 11 May 2013 04:03 AM PST
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Keep in mind Creator uses a routing tool, which is PC RAM hungry, much like FPGA design.

 

If you look at Xilinx systrem requirements they extend to 32 GB of RAM in order to be

able to route the larger designs.

 

Routing tools will choke on RAM starved PCs, crash much of the time. If they don't crash

be prepared to see your grandchildren grow up before the routes finish.

 

Regards, Dana.

 

 



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

danaaknight posted on 11 May 2013 04:06 AM PST
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One othere comment, Win XP SP2 and 3 wants to have just for Windows ~

768K RAM, otherwise is  really slow just opening simple stuff like Word, IE........

 

Regards, Dana.,



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

PSoC73 posted on 11 May 2013 04:30 AM PST
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Dana-san's saying is much awesome LOL

Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

az01 posted on 11 May 2013 01:19 PM PST
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 Unfortunately, my prediction was wrong. I have already added to the PC 512 MB of RAM. But the error remains. 

The error occurs equally in any amount of RAM in the system, from 64 to 768 MB. In fact, as shown in 

http://www.cypress.com/?id=4&rID=58205 the minimum / recommended system requirements

the program is very slow at values less than 512 MB of RAM, but runs up to 256 MB.

As I can see in Event  view, every start of program ends up with error with ID=1023 and description

".NET Runtime version 2.0.50727.3053 - Fatal Execution Engine Error 

(7A097706) (80131506)"



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

danaaknight posted on 11 May 2013 02:22 PM PST
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Then you might file a case on this -

 

www.cypress.com

“Support”

“Technical Support”

“Create a MyCase”

 

Regards, Dana.



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

hli posted on 11 May 2013 02:31 PM PST
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When your computer is already so bad it generates BSoDs, than it is very likely that some core component is defective (RAM, CPU, hard disk).

You can try to replace then whole memory with new memory modules to rule out the first one. Or you can re-install creator (preferrably to a new directory) to rule out the latter one (a byte-wise compare of both installation should tell you that they are both the same).

Sometimes it happens that a defective hard disk (or cable, or disk controller) just flkips some bits - and even only one in the wrong place can wreak havoc...



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

danaaknight posted on 11 May 2013 03:56 PM PST
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My personal experience is most BSOD due to drivers, after all silicon lasts

forever (NOT ). My biggest past issues dating back to DOS are graphics

driver errors. When the memory dump occurs there are tools to look at this,

and typically the offending code f() is listed at top of dump.

 

Regards, Dana.



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

danaaknight posted on 11 May 2013 04:03 PM PST
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A little BSOD info -

 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Screen_of_Death

 

Regards, Dana.



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

az01 posted on 12 May 2013 12:25 AM PST
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BSoD-s stopped. 

While the upgrade, rearranged all DIMM-s in various combinations on all sockets several times, possibly repaired poor contact. Furthermore, only one of the three modules old SDRAM remained in the system.

However, the error is still the same as before the upgrade.

 



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

H L posted on 12 May 2013 02:19 AM PST
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 Your system may have been corrupted already. May be time to re-install the windows system.



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

az01 posted on 12 May 2013 03:57 AM PST
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Maybe I need to reinstall Windows. But since the other programs work without any obvious problems, and an error occurs with the ". NET Runtime version 2.0.50727.3053", first I'll replace this program.

Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

hli posted on 12 May 2013 04:43 AM PST
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Are you able to compile at least simple programs (e.g. just an input pin connected to an output pin, to light up a LED with a button press)? I have already used Creator 2.2 on a virtualized WinXP(SP3) system with just 512MB RAM, and it worked (though it gets faster with more RAM). Btw: if you suspect that missing RAM is the reason, just add more swap space to windows.

But I think that either your memory is still a problem, or your Creator installation is already corrupted.



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

H L posted on 12 May 2013 07:18 AM PST
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Interesting. Have you tried both designer and creator with the virtual XP mode, and also the programmer software?

Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

hli posted on 12 May 2013 08:48 AM PST
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I did try only Creator in VirtualBox (even with larger projects than I mentioned), and I did also program my -001 kit with it from the virtual machine.



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

az01 posted on 13 May 2013 10:57 PM PST
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When I run the program, it shows the start-up image and text at the same time gives a loading message, and then about the initialization of the components of the program. When initialization is finished, a couple of seconds, an error message and a proposal to close the program.

 



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

hli posted on 13 May 2013 04:41 AM PST
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This really sound like a corrupted installation of Creator. Try to remove is, and then reinstall it. (It might just be that the problematic RAM modules corrupted the files to be copied)

Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

H L posted on 13 May 2013 06:40 AM PST
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when you have frequent BSOD, it is a sign that the windows system may be corrupted. The best way is to either perform a windows recovery first or just re-install windows.

Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

danaaknight posted on 13 May 2013 03:10 PM PST
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This might help -

 

www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-bsod.html

 

Regards, Dana.



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

az01 posted on 13 May 2013 06:19 PM PST
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 Thanks HL, Your recomendations were right. I install the Creator into another partition with no problems.

Before this I tryed to reinstall the Framework and Creator on previous partition, without sucсess. Obviously the windows there is "slightly" corrupted or something else with the system is wrong.

 



Re: PSoC Creator 2.2 SP1 (complete istallation) can't start on PC with 448 MB RAM

H L posted on 13 May 2013 07:11 PM PST
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Glad the problem is fixed. But that is microsoft windows!!!






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